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ATP Flight School
5661 S Sossaman Rd, Mesa, AZ 85212, United States
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Ed
Review №1

The website is only 60% clear but leaves many questions unanswered. Very hard to find pricing starting with a private pilots license and then easily walking up the ladder for more training. The Introductory Flight is advertised everywhere ad nauseum. Text/email me and I will provide more. .

Wa
Review №2

Painted some Lines There for Parking Planes. It was like 130, But Alliegiant Airlines Needs to Function and Keep That Money Train Rolling In. Not Enough Small Flights if You Ask me. ASU Has SMALL PLANES but That Makes Them More Maneuverable and Deadly. Just Kidding, But if we Ever had to RETRO FIT. I know some Girls Who would be Down, Actually theyre There already ❤✈ 🚁 🛩🛬🛫🚆🚅🚎🚌🚍🚓 #Infrastructure #ASU 🇺🇸

Ya
Review №3

They fly very low in the communitys and its crazy because these are students. Not only dangerous to the public but also very loud

Ja
Review №4

Please read before attending! - Extremely bad management. The company is concerned only of their own well being and will sacrifice the safety of their cadets. Please look at other options before settling on this company. Your career is worth more than settling. Best of luck. - (this is why the review) 2009 flight from North Las Vegas airport back to Phoenix in an ATP aircraft. During takeoff, the aircraft was not building airspeed and had to cancel takeoff due to this issue with aircraft. Upon canceling takeoff, due to an aircraft issue, with full breaks the aircraft slides off the runway with no damage to me, my copilot or to the aircraft. We return the aircraft to the ATP maintenance and stay the night in Vegas while they look at the issue. That night we received a call from the VP of operations. At first I was thinking that it was thoughtful that he reached-out and wanted to know if we were ok. This was far from what happened. The first words out his mouth were curse words. Attacking our piloting skills and saying there was nothing wrong with the aircraft; never asking us what happened but just keep threatening our position with the school. It was clear that he just concerned about the safety of ATP, and not us, if this situation got out and wanted to blame us. After returning to Phoenix, I received news that there was nothing wrong with the aircraft and ATP put me and the other student through a thorough flight screening which we both passed with flying colors. The aircraft, that we flew, went unfixed and back into rotation with students. About 2 weeks later, I was sitting in the ATP location in Phoenix and a student and instructor were walking out and I said fly safe guys knowing and working with them both. About 10 mins later the come back in and I said well that was a quick trip they responded with the aircraft was not building speed during takeoff and had to abort! I asked which aircraft was it? They said the tail number and it was the same aircraft just 2 weeks earlier I had the problem with in Las Vegas and ATP tried to blame on me and my flight partner. I walked back to the directors office and told him what just happened, he apologized to me for what I went through. I told him that this could have ended a lot worse. He agreed and finally pulled the aircraft from the line. 2 weeks this faulty aircraft was in use by student and something really bad could have happened. They tried to shift the blame on students, then tried to cover-up the issue; not for the safety of the students but for ATP. We have to ask ourselves: how many other times has this happened? This is why I mentioned the sacrifice of students safety, from my personal experience. So please think before you invest. Thank you

Ni
Review №5

My overall experience in 2018 with ATP KIWA was a negative and expensive one. However, I do feel going through that experience made me more driven and ultimately led me to the path of a Part 135 operator I now fly with.There is plenty of benefits to going through this school. Just make sure you advocate for yourself and get lined up with a motivated and mature instructor. Sadly, for some instructors this is their first job and lack professionalism.Dont go to ATP for the reason of being able to utilize a student loan. I chose this school for that reason. It wasnt worth it to me. Plenty of other ways to build ratings much more cost effective and timely manner without the negative atmosphere of this school.Management treats you like you are an employee, not a student/customer. The front desk at this location would get irritated if you asked a question. Complete opposite than what is the attitude on your first day signing the contract.Just be cautious. If you sense early on this program is NOT for you then cut your losses and find another way. ATP designed their program to be front loaded and the most expensive flights early on. I started the program with credit for private. The instrument program starts off with long cross countrys. You are left with only 10 or so hours to truly learn instrument procedures.This location does boast great airplanes with a G1000 package. You will experience a lot of interesting traffic out of KIWA. However you do pay for holding in the hold bay as it can get 10-15 airplanes deep at times waiting to depart.All in all. Do your research and dont get sucked in because of financial aid. I left with a mass exodus of other frustrated instrument program pilots.

Ri
Review №6

Great school, lots of aircraft available for flight instruction as well as instructors. Newer planes, fantastic maintenance, safety measures.

Sa
Review №7

GREAT school! Very organized and professional. Lots of instructors to fly with and get different perspectives. Ive loved my time at ATP so far!

Ne
Review №8

Quality instruction, by far the most efficient (cost and time) to join the airline world. I would highly recommend if your goal is to be a professional pilot. I had a great experience and have sent several friends who are now enjoying their pilot careers as well.

To
Review №9

I started with zero time and received all my ratings (including CFI, CFII, MEI) in just under 10 months, including over a month I spent at home away on break. KIWA being one of the largest ATP locations, there are many planes, sims, and resources available for use. It gets blazing hot in the summer, but there are still probably less weather delays for flying here than most other regions.That being said, being a student at ATP requires much drive and dedication. I spent many long days and late nights studying on my own or with peers. Not everybody I trained with had the same great experience that I did. I was fortunate to have great instructors throughout all stages of the program.

Br
Review №10

My experience with ATP at the KIWA location was a positive one. I came in with my private pilot certificate and 80 hrs and was able to get my instrument, commercial (single and multi), CFI (single and multi) and CFII in just over 9 months. ATP did a good job of making sure I was flying regularly, that the planes were well maintained, and providing a place where students could become immersed in aviation. Admittedly it was a tough, accelerated program thats not for everyone and requires a lot of work and self-study, but its do-able.

Pa
Review №11

Programs at ATP are fast paced. You would need a good instructor and mainly yourself being motivated throughout the program to be able to finish.

Jo
Review №12

I was just like you, interested in ATP but nervous because the reviews are brutal to read. I will tell you now that 90% of these reviews are from individuals that have received the boot out of this program. There is a large number of graduates from this program, but are too lazy to create a review (such as myself, but I decided to create one to help future students make their decisions).First off, this program is not for everyone (aviation is not for everyone). You have to be dedicated, determined, and goal oriented. It is a difficult program, but it is possible to graduate! ATP is extremely structured and introduces an extremely solid foundation for private pilots and thats why I encourage students to start the program with 0 hours. ATP is the fastest way to the airlines this stands very true and if you hear a small flight school repeat that saying I will be the first to say that THEY ARE LYING!Secondly, this company/location has numerous amount of recourses (ATP PHX/Mesa) and I encourage anyone that wants to attend ATP to go to this location. It is a fast pace program and youll experience A LOT of self study, but there is such a large amount of students and instructors lingering around to help you throughout your time at ATP (just be prepared to live at ATP). The simulators, large students/instructor amount, handful of new aircrafts, a cubical room, briefing rooms, a lounge area, and rooms to collaborate with other students just makes this location/company the best flight school Ive every seen/been to (I started ATP with my PPL).Lastly, the only downside I experienced at ATP was the having instructors in and out, but if you fly well and have good educational tools you will be fine if you have an instructor change on you. Although it is frustrating, it is also helpful to receive different perspectives of aviation from different instructors. Just be as prepared as possible when you start ATP (get a chunk of your written tests done and study your modules). Having that ATP Graduate on your resume is an eye catcher for all airlines, so keep striving when things arent going your way. It was well worth the stress for 6 months straight because now Ive been blessed to say that I am an ATP Graduate.

Ni
Review №13

ATP is hit or miss, I had friends that started the same day as me that had a great time, great instuctors, and rarely had anything rescheduled. My time at ATP was quite a bit different, although for the most part I had great instructors, they treated their instructors like cattle, even worse than their students. I never had a checkride that wasnt rescheduled at least once most being rescheduled several times. None that were due to weather or anything like that. Twice I was charged for flights I did not take, and both times took weeks to settle over something that should have been handled. To keep it simple, ATP is a roll of the dice; It can be a quick painless and great way to get through your Rating, or it can be something more like my experience.

Mi
Review №14

Overall my experience at ATP was a good one, I met a lot of good instructors and in 9 months I went from a private pilot to CFI, MEI, CFII. If you do decide to go to ATP, I highly recommend attending the IWA location. The instructors and management (along with constant good weather) at that location helped my training progress smoothly and efficiently. Plan on spending almost all day everyday at the airport either studying, flying, or using their simulators. Since the program is so fast paced, you need to commit at least 4-5 hours a day to studying at the minimum.

Ja
Review №15

Well Managed and great program if you know what to expect.

Ch
Review №16

Had the worst flight instructor. He would curse at me if I pressed a wrong GPS button. Very unprofessional. Some of the instructors are there just to build their time and dont enjoy teaching, let alone know basics of instructing. Very corporate feel to the flight school, vs having fun and learning new things. The cost is 2-3x more than what Im paying elsewhere. Part 61 flying is the way to go

Th
Review №17

GO TO YELP for more reviews! Very disappointing experience. Negative atmosphere. A lot of time and money wasted. The culture at this location is very bad. Most of the instructors have never had a job prior to being a CFI and it really shows when it comes to being professional. Most act like they are still in the frat house. I experienced many issues that affected my training. Several instructors at this location trained under part 141. Thats fine, however most would tell me that they had a tough time teaching the ATP accelerated program and preferred ASU students.The support staff is overwhelmed and not very helpful. There is too many students at this location and it makes it difficult to get what you are paying for. PLEASE READ the contract on the day of your start. ATP has been sued many times and it shows by how the contract is written.One plus is this location does have a rotating ground class three days a week. However, most of the instructors are in a rush and dont use the full two hour block. Some classes were good and some bad. It would be helpful if they had dedicated ground instructors. Another plus is the airplanes are well maintained and relatively new. This location has onsite maintenance.The bottom line is that if you want to get your ratings and truly learn as well as have confidence than do not choose ATP. ATPs model is to hire you as an instructor once you complete the program. In actuality the pass rate for that is very low and you are getting your CFI ratings at the bare minimums. This is so they can charge $70 an hour and pay the instructor less than $10 an hour. ATP chooses profit over quality. The instructors here have no real world experience and as stated never had a job before ATP.As another poster stated about check-rides being rescheduled for no reason. This location puts out obstacle after obstacle and makes things more difficult than called for. The instructors are afraid of being fired so they prolong endorsing you in fear of you failing the check-ride.I left the program due to the fact I was being jerked around. I wasnt being endorsed because the instructor stated I wasnt meeting the ACS when it came to knowledge. Funny thing is that the instructor I have found now has over 4500 hours instructing and he felt my knowledge was excellent. I have since obtained my instrument and working toward my other ratings.I toured many flight schools in the Phoenix area after my ATP fiasco to find out the schools are filled with people that left ATP during their instrument rating.PLEASE BEWARE and know what you are getting into with the ATP program. I can see it working, however not at this location. I have talked with a few students after I left and they are trudging along but state they have no confidence.I have let corporate know about the concerns I had along with several other people who experienced these negative issues. They dont want to challenge the guy who runs this location. So that means when something BAD happens they will address it.Ethan or Josh. Please do not respond to this with a canned response about how you are sorry to hear about my experience.In response to the owner. The full immersion wasnt the problem. The problem was paying for top dollar training and not learning from the instructors I had. We are expected to learn from other students. I didnt pay all this money to have to learn from other students studying pilots cafe. Thats why I say your company is about profit. Take a look at Lufthansa in Goodyear, AZ. Now that is about quality.Sadly, I got hooked into ATP because of being able to utilize a student loan. Big mistake! I feel all the charges outside of flight hours were a complete and utter waste. Very costly lesson.

Jo
Review №18

Terrible. I know too many people who have been fed up with the program and gone elsewhere. The ATP instructors are arrogant, cocky, rude, etc. As an ASU student, I have to train out of here and if I leave I will not get the part 141 hour reduction so I will have to just stay and bite the bullet, but I know too many people who are ASU students and left (forfeiting the 500 hour reduction) because the instructors make it a terrible experience. You should enjoy your training experience and ATP just makes you feel like a number. Not to mention the fact I hear instructors openly gossiping about their students if the student messes up on something and going on social media or texting WHILE youre taxiing or flying. If you are doing part 61 training, go elsewhere and if you are set on the 141 route, go to a different 141 approved university... yes its that bad.

M
Review №19

Being a Professional Airline Pilot for over 17 years and having an enjoyable experience going through a couple flight schools, one at home in Hawaii and one in Prescott, AZ I feel I can say this though my experience and watching my boyfriend go though a totally different experience with ALL ATP MESA. ALL ATP MESA from prior to day one wants you to complete all written tests from Private Pilot, Instrument and Commercial prior to arriving. That is so they dont have help you with any written prep at all. They state they want you to dress in uniform and it is a professional environment but it is far from that. The ALLATP apartment that my boyfriend moved into had chairs and a coffee table leg totally broken, stained carpet, dirty bath tubs and sinks. The apartment hasnt been cleaned for years with food over two years old in the fridge and cupboards. I had to write a formal complaint about the cleanliness of the place and asked to move to a different apartment. After moving and over two months later, the old roommates still did not get new and in tact furniture. His flight instructor sucked. He was a terrible communicator and teacher and by how my boyfriend was explaining things he was a brand new flight instructor and was just putting his time in to get hired from an Airline. Good luck whoever hires Cameron. Terrible. He was always on his cell phone texting and at one point when another flight instructor asked if he was doing ground, he answered no, I babysat them yesterday. I got news for you Cameron....you are nothing right now. Huge attitudes from the instructors and the office staff there. Sometimes my boyfriend didnt have a schedule for the next day even as late as 8pm the night before. The study area was always loud with other flight instructors talking and laughing so there was no real study area at the school. They over charge and charge you for things that you didnt receive. For example my boyfriend never got pre departure brief or de briefed before and after every flight yet they charged him $75 every time he flew. There were other people that got charged for things when they shouldnt have. This is a factory and you are a number. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU AS A PERSON OR AS A POTENTIAL PROFESSIONAL PILOT. This place is terrible I think if they got better management it may help but who knows. DONT GO TO THIS ALL ATP!Others may be different but this experience was terrible. It should be fun. It is hard but they should try their best to make it an enjoyable experience for how hard it is. DONT GO TO THIS ATP.

Jo
Review №20

Seems like people have giving the same feed back for sometime and you still have not improved.

ch
Review №21

This school is all about the money. Expect your instructor to be young, immature, and on there phone when u need help. Everyone that I know that is put a bad review on here they have had Google take it off just be wearing if you want the truth go to Yelp.

Ch
Review №22

Worst flight school.

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  • Address:5661 S Sossaman Rd, Mesa, AZ 85212, United States
  • Site:https://atpflightschool.com/
  • Phone:+1 904-595-7950
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  • Flight school
  • Aviation consultant
Working hours
  • Monday:8AM–6PM
  • Tuesday:8AM–6PM
  • Wednesday:8AM–6PM
  • Thursday:Closed
  • Friday:Closed
  • Saturday:8AM–6PM
  • Sunday:8AM–6PM
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